Rebuilding Triumph T20B Bantam Cubs
Rebuilding & restoring the T20B variant of the Triumph Tiger Cub
Bantam Cubs are very simple machines by today's standards and restoring
them is pretty straightforward.
However, because they're relatively rare models of Tiger Cub it
can be difficult to identify and source some of the components,
especially if you're aiming for an accurate restoration.
The notes below are based on my personal experiences and the research
I carried out while rebuilding my own bike. I hope you will find
them useful.
The BSA Influence
Before You Start
How Bantam Cubs Differ
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The BSA Influence
When I started to rebuild my 1967 Triumph Bantam Cub I didn't realise
at first just how significant BSA was with these models. Although
branded a Triumph, virtually everything on the bike apart from the
engine and tank badges is BSA!
The T20B Bantam Cubs and Super Cubs were based on the BSA Bantam
D7 and D10 respectively. With the exception of the petrol tank,
the front mudguard and the wheels, the two T20B models are almost
identical to each other. Both models also have a similar appearance
to the Bantam D14 and the B175.
When originally manufactured, many parts were used from other BSA
models, plus a few are specific to the T20B. For example, the oil
tank was from the BSA C15 and the side stand from the Bushman version
of the Bantam, while the petrol tanks and headlight are unique.
So, other than the engine, when you're searching for original parts,
think BSA!
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Before You Start
Before starting a rebuild I would recommend these publications, especially
the three on the left - they really are essential.
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The
Tiger Cub Bible, by Mike Estall - a really useful reference
book covering all Cub models.
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Roebuck
Zeus Data Charts - a booklet with engineering data that includes
useful thread details. It does not cover all types of thread used
on Cubs, but is still very helpful when trying to identify nuts,
bolts and screws.
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A copy of the original Triumph Parts Book for the Bantam Cub &
Super Cub - these are readily available via websites like eBay and
from suppliers of Tiger Cub parts.
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The
Haynes Manual for the Tiger Cub - this does not give much detail
that is specific to the T20B, but it does have useful information
and pictures of the Cub engine assembly.
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Mike Estall's Consolidated Tiger Cub Parts List - this gives useful
sizes and references not covered in the Parts Book. These used to
be available directly from Mike Estall himself,
but sadly he passed away in 2017. Updated availablity to follow.
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The
Haynes Manual for the BSA Bantam - a thin book that covers more
than a dozen models so it's a bit light on detail. Also, the only
sections relating to T20B are the frame, forks, wheels, brakes and
electrics. Personally I didn't find it a lot of help, but there
are a few useful specifications.
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How Bantam Cubs Differ
Both the Triumph Tiger Cub and the BSA Bantam are well documented elsewhere
so I've just summarised below the main areas where the Bantam Cub and
Super Cub differ from the more common models.
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Terminology: To avoid confusion I have used the following
terminology to identify the different models when describing
parts:
'T20B' - Applies to both Bantam Cub and
Super Cub.
'Bantam Cub' - Applies to Bantam Cub only;
not Super Cub.
'Super Cub' - Applies to Super Cub only;
not Bantam Cub.
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Triumph T20B Bantam Cub,
1966-68
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Triumph T20B Super Cub,
1967-69
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Paintwork
Bantam Cubs were supplied in a two-tone, blue and white colour
scheme - 'Nutley Blue' (see notes below)
which is a BSA colour and 'Alaskan White', a widely-used Triumph
colour.
Super Cubs were finished in a BSA red known as 'Firecracker Red'
(see notes below). The petrol tank was chromed
before the top half was painted, leaving the chrome exposed on the
bottom half.
Both models had gold lining on the front mudguards - see pictures
in the 'Wheels' section below.
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T20B Bantam Cub
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T20B Super Cub
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Petrol Tank:
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Top: Nutley Blue
Bottom: Alaskan White
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Top: Firecracker Red
Bottom: Chrome
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Oil Tank & Battery Box:
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Nutley Blue
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Firecracker Red
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Front Mudguard:
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Alaskan White
with Gold lining
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Firecracker Red
with Gold lining
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Rear Mudguard:
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Alaskan White
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Firecracker Red
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Bantam Cub Colour Notes
Some Triumph publications mention alternative names for the
blue used on Bantam Cubs.
The Parts Book, mentions 'Perrivale Blue', but I can't
trace any evidence of that name being used in production. Also,
shouldn't it have been spelt Perivale Blue?
A 1966 advert describes the machines as being 'Finished in Pacific
blue and white'. Pacific Blue was a colour that was used on
some Triumph Twins of that era and it does look like it could have
been the same as Nutley Blue. Was Triumph simply re-branding BSA's
Nutley Blue to differentiate their colours from BSA?
Some modern, Hinckley Triumphs are also available in a colour known
as Pacific Blue, but this is quite different from the colour of
the same name used in the 1960's and 70's.
Super Cub Colour Notes
'Firecracker Red' was a standard BSA colour. However, when the
Super Cubs were first introduced Triumph re-named it 'Bushfire Red'.
This name was short-lived and quickly reverted back to 'Firecracker
Red'. Is this another example of Triumph trying to distinguish their
own colour range, but failing?
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1966 advert for T20B Bantam Cub
Note the comment that they are,
'Finished in Pacific Blue and white'.
Extract from the Parts Book referring
to Bantam Cubs as 'Perrivale Blue'.
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Petrol Tank
The Bantam Cub petrol tank is based on the Bantam D7, and the Super
Cub on the Bantam D10. The two tanks are completely differerent
shapes and in both cases the T20B versions are not exactly the same
as the original BSA models because of the difference between the
Triumph and BSA badges.
BSA tanks tend to have recesses on either side of the tanks to
take the BSA badges. However, the Triumph badges sit on the surface
and follow the contours of the tanks. Consequently the T20B tanks
have no recesses for badges and instead have threaded holes in the
correct positions for the Triumph badges.
This means that although all the tanks are physically interchangeable,
if you want the right shape, with the right Triumph badge, then
you'll need the correct tank for your bike - there are no alternatives
from other models. These tanks are still available, but are becoming
quite rare now so expect to pay a high price for a good one.
The Triumph tank badges (referred to as 'styling units' in the
parts book) are also different for each model. The Bantam Cub used
the popular 'mouth organ' style found on many Tiger Cubs while the
Super Cub had the later two-piece badge.
Only the Bantam Cub had rubber knee pads fitted to the tank. The
Bantam D7, D10 and the Super Cubs had no knee pads.
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Bantam Cub Petrol Tank
Similar to Bantam D7 tank,
but with fixing holes
for Triumph badges.
Bantam Cub Tank Badge
'Mouth Organ' style
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Super Cub Petrol Tank
Similar to Bantam D10 tank,
but with fixing holes
for Triumph badges.
Super Cub Tank Badge
2-piece style
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Oil Tank & Oil Filter
The BSA Bantam used a two-stroke engine so there was no need for
an oil tank. Consequently the Bantam's right-hand side panel was
almost a mirror-image of the left-hand battery box cover. However,
the Tiger Cub engine is, of course, a dry-sump four-stroke so an
oil tank was needed. On both models of T20B, BSA used the oil tank
from their latest C15 model which was a 250cc, four-stroke.
Some earlier C15 oil tanks are the correct size and shape, but
they don't have the 'froth tower' projecting from the top of the
tank where the breather pipe connects.
The version fitted to the T20B seems to have appeared on the C15
in the mid-1960's, around the same time as the T20B was introduced.
Did the T20B simply use the latest design that had evolved for the
C15, or did the C15 benefit from improvements developed for the
introduction of the T20B?
Whatever the reason, if you need a replacement you may find that
oil tanks described as 'C15' are cheaper than those with a 'Bantam
Cub' or 'Super Cub' label. Provided you get the later version with
the froth tower, they are all the same BSA part. (Part number 75-8345.)
A very simlar tank was also used on BSA's 350cc model B40 and this
may also be suitable. (Part number 40-8302.)
The oil filter in the bottom of the oil tank is a widely used BSA/Triumph
part. The original oil filter part number F3179 is equivalent to
82-3179 and 40-8328. Replacements are readily available at reasonable
prices so shop around.
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T20B Oil Tank
Note the 'froth tower'
on the top of the tank,
under the seat.
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Front Mudguards
The Bantam Cub uses a common mudguard fitted to both the standard Tiger
Cubs and many Bantams from D7 onwards. It has integral flat brackets that
bolt to the fork legs and four identical, straight stays to secure it
front and back.
The Super Cub appears to use a Triumph mudguard that was fitted to the
Sports Cubs, Scramblers and Mountain Cubs. It also looks very similar
to the mudguards used by many of the bigger Triumphs such as the Bonneville
and Daytona. It is attached to the forks by three steel hoops.
See pictures in 'Wheels' section below.
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Wheels
The Bantam Cub uses Bantam D7 wheels. On both the front and rear hubs,
the side opposite the brake is smaller in diameter than the brake side
meaning the spokes are different lengths on each side.
The front wheel is identical to 18 inch T20 wheels. Although the rear
wheel looks very similar to standard Cubs, the Bantam hub is approxiamtely
10mm wider which means that neither the rear hubs nor the spindles are
interchangeable with other Cubs!
The Super Cub uses the Bantam D10/D14/B175 wheels with 'full-width' hubs
front and rear. These are the same diameter on both sides with a corrugated
centre and they have spokes of the same length on both sides. If you are
restoring these hubs then take care as the corrugated sleeve is quite
thin and, if corroded, it can be severely damaged by shot-blasting.
Identifying Front Wheels and Mudguards
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T20B Bantam Cub Wheel & Mudguard
Hub is smaller opposite brake.
Spokes are different lengths on each side.
Flat brackets attach centre of mudguard to forks.
Mudguard stays front and back are equal length.
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T20B Super Cub Wheel & Mudguard
Full-width hub with corrugated centre.
Spokes are all the same length.
Three hoops support the mudguard.
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Headlight , Speedo & Switches
As far as I can establish, this particular headlight was only ever fitted
to the T20B. It is based on the Lucas MCH56 shell and is chromed. Other
versions of the MCH56 shell do exist, but the sizes and positions of the
holes for the speedo, switches, etc, seem to be unqiue to this model.
Some late Bantams and a few C15 Sportsman models did have a similar headlight,
but these were made by Wipac and have slightly different proportions.
The Wipac shell is shorter and looks fatter than the Lucas version and
the rim is thicker. Most importantly the Wipac model is made for a larger
diameter speedo so they are not interchangeable, unless you are willing
to swap the speedo and accept that the appearance will not be original.
The T20B had the same Smiths SSM2001 speedo (2-3/8"
diameter, 0-80mph) and separate Lucas SA88 ignition and lighting switches
as fitted to other late Tiger Cubs. This differs from many of the Bantams
which used Wipac switches and 2-1/2" diameter
speedo, although later D10 and D14 models did use the same speedo.
As a consequence you can expect to pay a high price for a good, original
T20B headlight!
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Identifying Headlamp Shells - Top View.
Left: Correct T20B Lucas headlamp.
Longer, 6-1/4" body with thinner, 1"
rim.
Hole for 2-3/8" diameter speedo.
'D' shaped switch holes, slightly raised.
Central hole set back from switch holes towards speedo hole.
Small hole for rim clamp screw.
Right: Similar BSA Wipac headlamp.
Shorter, 5-3/4" body with deeper, 1-1/2"
rim.
Hole for 2-1/2" diameter speedo.
Round switch holes with small locating holes on pronounced, raised
bosses.
Central hole in line with switch holes.
No hole for rim clamp screw.
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Identifying Headlamp Shells - Bottom View.
Left: Correct T20B Lucas headlamp.
Longer, 6-1/4" body with thinner, 1"
rim.
Two separate holes for speedo cable and wiring.
Stamped with markings, "MCH 56 LUCAS".
Right: Similar BSA Wipac headlamp.
Shorter, 5-3/4" body with deeper, 1-1/2"
rim.
Single hole for speedo cable and wiring together.
External rim clamp.
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For more details of the electrical equipment fitted to Bantam Cubs and
Super cubs see the 'Electrical' page.
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Handlebar Controls
The T20B handlebars are standard Bantam D7/D10/D14/B175. However, the
levers and twist-grip are different. If you're not concerned about historical
detail then any 7/8" levers and twist-grip will do. If you're going
for accuracy then these will be difficult to get right. The T20B used
an unusual Amal set-up with the brake-lever and twist-grip combined in
a single assembly. The clutch lever used a cast bracket that matches.
A similar set-up was also used on some Ariels - I believe certain
Arrows and Leaders were fitted with them. However, most of the Ariels
used plain levers while the T20B had ball-end levers. Also, the
T20B used the standard 4-3/4" long Amal
rubber grips while some Ariels used a shorter, 4" version meaning
that, although the bulk of the assembly is identical, the length
of the steel throttle tube differs in length. Finally the Ariel
parts were usually painted grey while the T20B versions were chromed.
Therefore, if you want an authentic restoration it can take a while
to track down the right parts. Ariel parts may be used as short-term
substitutes while you search for the correct originals.
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T20B
Part No.
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Ariel
Part No.
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Twistgrip
& Brake Lever Assembly |
368-23
(4-3/4")
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T1152
(4")
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Clutch
Lever Assembly |
18-1091
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T1139
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Throttle
Rotor |
366-004
(4-3/4")
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T1377
(4")
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Brake
Lever |
368-019
(ball)
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29-8812
(plain)
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Clutch
Lever |
18-1092
(ball)
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29-8832
(plain)
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Handlebar
Grip - Right |
16-070
(4-3/4")
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6425-1
(4")
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Handlebar
Grip - Left |
16-069
(4-3/4")
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6425-7/8
(4")
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T20B controls & similar Ariel controls
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Identifying Amal combined controls.
Top: Correct T20B controls.
Longer, 4-3/4" throttle tube and rubber.
Chromed castings.
Ball-end levers.
Bottom: Similar Ariel controls.
Shorter, 4" throttle tube and rubber.
Painted castings.
Plain levers.
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Identifying Amal combined throttle assemblies.
Left: Ariel controls.
Right: Correct T20B controls.
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Identifying Amal levers.
Top: Standard Amal Levers - not suitable for T20B
Common version of Amal ball-end levers as fitted to many British
bikes. Note the cable installation slot at the top.
These levers are readily available from many suppliers,
but do NOT fit the original T20B set-up. They won't fit the brackets
properly and the cable will be too tight with no slack for adjustment.
Middle: T20B Levers
Smaller ball-end levers as fitted to T20B. Note the cable installation
slot at the side and the indentation opposite the slot.
Bottom: Ariel Levers - alternative for T20B
Small, plain levers as fitted to some Ariel models. These fit the
brackets perfectly, but look a little small and don't have the original
appearance.
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Seat
The steel base for the seat on the T20B was common for both models and
is standard Bantam D7/D10/D14/B175 base. However, there were variations
in the colour of the seat covers and in the thickness of the seat cushions.
Photos and drawings from the period suggest that the original colours
and sizes were as shown in the table below, but I have not yet been able
to verify these and several other styles exist.
T20B Model
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Seat Top
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Seat Sides
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Top Piping
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Base Edging
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Pillion Strap
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Cushion
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Bantam Cub
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75-9164
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Grey
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Black
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White
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Grey
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Not fitted
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2 inch thick
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71-9171
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Black
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Black
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White
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Black
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Black
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3 inch thick
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New seat covers and even complete seats are readily available for
Bantams, but can be expensive.
The original Bantam Cub covers with the grey top and no strap are
incredibly rare! Standard Cub seats are available with the grey
top but they are, of course, designed to fit the Cub seat base and
not the Bantam base, which is a completely different shape.
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Frame & Engine Mounts
The T20B machines use standard BSA Bantam frames. The only difference
is the addition of an extra engine mounting point.
The Bantam engine has just two engine mounts - one at the front
and one at the back. The more powerful Cub engine has a third mounting
point underneath the front of the engine. As a result, the T20B
frames differ from the standard Bantam frames with an extra engine
mount.
The two plates used to connect the rear of the engine to the frame
are also quite different from the standard Bantam plates. These
are uinqie to the T20B.
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Third Engine Mount
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Footrests
The front footrests on a BSA Bantam sweep up and out from their mounting
points on the frame under the engine. However, the Cub engine is larger
than the Bantam and so the footrests are different to avoid the outer
casings. The T20B footrests come out horozontally and are then stepped
up.
The pillion footrests on the T20B were fitted with the standard Bantam
rubbers complete with the 'BSA' logo embossed on either side! Note that
BSA produced two similar versions of these pillion rubbers for a wide
range of different machines. The T20B uses the shorter, 3-1/2"
version, not the longer ones that are 4-1/4".
The bracket for the left-side pillion footrest differs from the standard
Bantam D7/D10 bracket. As discussed below in the 'Side Stand' section
below, this bracket is the same as the Bantam 'Bushman' models to accommodate
the side stand.
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Side Stand
Frequently BSA Bantams relied on just a centre stand. Where a side
stand was fitted, it was usually attached to the two front engine
mount bolts. Alternatively some owners fitted a common after-market
stand that clamped to the frame underneath the engine. Neither of
these options were possible on the T20B because the front mount
on the Cub engine only has a single bolt and the larger size of
the engine means there is not enough room between it and the frame
for a clamp.
Around the same time as the Bantam Cub was introduced in 1966,
BSA launched their 'Bushman' model of the Bantam and both machines
shared a new side stand. This was bolted onto a re-designed bracket
for the left-side pillion footrest.
It's not clear whether the introduction of the Bantam Cub prompted
the re-design and this was adopted by BSA for their own new model,
or if the stand was already in place for the Bushman and it offered
a simple solution for the Bantam Cub too. Either way, the Bushman
and both T20B models used the new design and they are therefore
different from other Bantams and Tiger Cubs.
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Engine
The engine is almost entirely a standard, late-type, T20 engine with
points on the side, ball bearings fitted in both main bearings and the
distinctive square barrel and head.
The Triumph Parts Books shows a roller big-end bearing fitted to all
T20B engines, but this is not accurate! Most T20B engines did have the
roller big-end, but early models came off the production line with the
earlier plain bush big-ends. I'd be surprised if any of these plain bushes
survive as this was a well-documented weak point. Most will have been
replaced with Alpha roller bearing kits at least once in their lifetime.
The only difference with the main engine components fitted to the T20B
appears to be that the engine number is stamped on the left-hand casing
below the bottom of the barrel rather than on the front engine mount.
(Is this a Small Heath trait perhaps?) Engine numbers all start T20B and
would have originally matched the frame number exactly.
There are a few differences with some of the peripheral engine components
as detailed below.
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Carburettor & Air Filter
Both models of T20B were fitted with an Amal Monobloc 375 carburettor
fitted with a 'mushroom' air filter.
Numerous versions of the Amal 375 Monobloc were produced, but the
specific model to look for is stamped with the number '375/61' on
the top of the flange. This has the correct 25/32" (19.8mm)
bore and the right thread for the filter which is 1-7/16"
(36.5mm) diameter x 24 tpi (threads per inch).
Note that there is an error in the original Triumph T20B Parts
Book. The carburetter is detailed on pages 52 and 53 and the illustration
shows Ref. No. 6, 'Mixing Chamber Top' (375/064) with a single cable-entry
hole on a sloping top. This is not accurate because that part actually
has a square top with two cable-entry holes.
Also, the parts book does not show either the Cable Adjuster Screw
(4/035) or the Plug Screw (4/137A) used to blank off the unused
hole. The same parts were fitted to 375 carbs on other machines
and the Amal drawing opposite almost certainly shows the correct
parts fitted to the T20B.
Although not shown in the illustrations, Amal also supply a Nut
(5/077) which may be used to lock the cable adjusting screw. This
is a sensible addition to prevent the screw turning by itself.
Many of the more common models of Tiger Cub used an air filter
mounted under the seat next to the oil tank and this was connected
to the carburettor via a rubber tube that fitted over a lip on the
carb inlet. However, the Bantam tinware didn't permit this set-up
and so instead the T20B used a mushroom-shaped filter screwed onto
the inlet.
Similar mushroom filters were used on several bikes of that era,
but they all seem to be bigger and I can't find details of any other
model that used this exact part. As you can see from the photo,
it's a pretty tight fit and it seems likely the filter was designed
specifically for the T20B. The pressed-steel bodies are still available,
but the internal filter element is now very difficult to find.
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Amal 375/61 carburettor
and 'mushroom' air filter.
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Amal Part No.
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Description
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4/035
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Cable Adjuster Screw
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4/137A
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Plug Screw
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5/077
(not shown)
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Nut - Optional, used to lock the cable
adjuster screw.
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Parts for top of Amal 375/61 carb.
Correction to T20B Parts Book.
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Kickstart
The kickstart on the T20B is very slightly different from the standard
Cubs. The difference is almost imperceptible, but it is important! Because
the T20B exhaust pipe follows a different route to the standard Cubs (see
below) there is a tendency for the kickstart to hit the exhaust. The problem
is exacerbated by some manufacturers of replacement exhausts who appear
to be using 35mm metric tubing which is marginally bigger than the original
imperial size of 1-5/16".
There is therefore a different version of the kickstart for the T20B
that curves slightly further out from the engine (part number T1679 for
the complete assembly). The difference is small so unless you have a standard
kickstart to compare it with, it can be difficult to determine that you
have the T20B version.
New, pattern parts are available from some suppliers, but originals
are hard to find mainly because they appear so similar to the standard
version.
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Exhaust Pipe
At first glance the T20B exhaust pipe and silencer appear to be similar
to the standard Tiger Cub, but there are some subtle differences that
mean they are not interchangeable!
The standard Cub exhaust sweeps down under the engine and is tucked in
close to the frame; the standard silencer bulges outward from the bike.
However, on the T20B the shape of the frame prevents the exhaust following
the same route. The pipe has an outward kink to push it slightly further
out and clear of the frame. The silencer looks similar to the standard
Cub silencer, but it bulges inward towards the back wheel. Both components
are unique to the T20B.
This means that the standard Cub exhaust system cannot be used
on a T20B - if you have problems getting your exhaust to fit properly,
check you have the correct one.
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T20B
Silencer bulges inwards, towards the back wheel.
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Standard T20
Silencer bulges outwards, away from the wheel.
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Wiring Loom & Horn
The same wiring loom is used for both T20B models. This
is very similar to the Bantam D10 loom and also late, standard, T20 Tiger
Cub looms. The only significant difference seems to be the location of
the horn. The BSA Bantams and the majority of T20 Tiger Cubs had the horn
mounted under the seat near the battery, but the T20B horn hangs down
under the front of the petrol tank. The Bantam D7 loom will not fit
either model!
See additional infromation on the 'Electrical'
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